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I personally like that they incorporated the whole space-time-continuum thing. I mean, it takes balls for a writer to even try to touch on that, considering there are so many catches and complications with it. I give the series kudos for using it. >D
But besides that, it strikes me as the most important ability simply because of how huge it is, how it affects the universe, and that it plays a hand in every Hero's life. As long as the series doesn't use it on a futile basis, I think it's great. They proved their proper use of it, however, when Hiro failed to bring Charlie back. That would have just been cliche, no matter how much we love her. |
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melas_chole
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. If Hiro's power were to be used to achieve everything the audience wants, then where would the excitement and uncertainty be? This is a tough show for the writers to deal with, having to connect all these bits and pieces together, while having to keep the show make sense chronologically and all that...kudos indeed! |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Blackarachnia wrote: |
Having watched X-Files from day one (yes I am old), living through many years in which very little that was concrete was revealed and episodes that promised answers often just created more questions, this is very familiar to me. It can make you feel like this though: 
But eventually it'll make us feel like this:   |
you know what they say, 40 is the new 20! |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, exactly. What a handful for them~ But I think that's what makes the series more rich and valuable. x3
I used to watch X-files. I loved it. xD |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree, Nec. I think it is am important element of the show and so far, they haven't really given any non-answer answers like Voyager did. (And yes, I am a total geek and very very proud of it.) I think that Enterprise actually handled time travel really well but I hated every time Voyager had Janeway say stuff like this: "Don't think too hard about time-travel or try to understand it or you'll go crazy." Total copout!!!! And since it's Hiro's power, I'm confident they'll treat it with logic and respect. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, I definitely agree. Hiro's character is just too important to throw to the wind like that. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad that Hiro's time travel powers are showing limits. It's an excellent lesson, one that inspired me to create a lesson for my future students (I'm studying to be a Spanish teacher). The idea is this: the students have to determine if going back in time and killing one key player in the Mexican Revolution would have stopped it from happening? They really have to study Mexico's cultural and political history and the present-day climates of politics and culture to determine that it wouldn't have. The presence of modern-day revolutionaries in southern Mexico and the events that led to the 1910 revolution there are indicators that the political culture there is still rooted in the colonial period and therefore (and this is the key thing) is influenced by factors rising above any individual's deeds on either side. In other words, killing Pancho Villa (one of the lead revolutionaries) would not have stopped the revolution, nor would killing Porfirio Diaz (the scumbag dictator they were revolting against), since the factors that led to the scumbag dictatorship they had with Diaz and the revolution that overthrew that dictatorship and instituted their constitution were influenced by greater factors than simply the leadership of one person.
I think that's sort of like what Hiro is starting to figure out, and which I saw for his character from a few episodes ago. He had opportunities to complicate or simplify things for other superhumans but didn't know it, and as he finally began to learn in earnest in the case of Charlie, and as it was so eloquently put by Chris Rock in "Dr. Doolittle", "You can't save 'em all, Hasselhoff!" |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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From one teacher to another, huzzah!!!
Here's one I put to my English students when we are studying a paradox
You go back in time and kill Hitler when before he came to power. You find him in jail so you know when and where exactly to do it. But because you do so, your mother never immigrates to Canada and stays in Germany. Because of that, your parents never meet and you are never born. So, if you are never born, how could you have gone back in time to stop Hitler? That's when we all agree that such an event might cause a rip in the space time continuum and would be a really really bad idea. And they leave my class freaked out....which is always my goal. One freaky moment each day, I say!! |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| barscotch wrote: |
I'm glad that Hiro's time travel powers are showing limits. It's an excellent lesson, one that inspired me to create a lesson for my future students (I'm studying to be a Spanish teacher). The idea is this: the students have to determine if going back in time and killing one key player in the Mexican Revolution would have stopped it from happening? They really have to study Mexico's cultural and political history and the present-day climates of politics and culture to determine that it wouldn't have. The presence of modern-day revolutionaries in southern Mexico and the events that led to the 1910 revolution there are indicators that the political culture there is still rooted in the colonial period and therefore (and this is the key thing) is influenced by factors rising above any individual's deeds on either side. In other words, killing Pancho Villa (one of the lead revolutionaries) would not have stopped the revolution, nor would killing Porfirio Diaz (the scumbag dictator they were revolting against), since the factors that led to the scumbag dictatorship they had with Diaz and the revolution that overthrew that dictatorship and instituted their constitution were influenced by greater factors than simply the leadership of one person.
I think that's sort of like what Hiro is starting to figure out, and which I saw for his character from a few episodes ago. He had opportunities to complicate or simplify things for other superhumans but didn't know it, and as he finally began to learn in earnest in the case of Charlie, and as it was so eloquently put by Chris Rock in "Dr. Doolittle", "You can't save 'em all, Hasselhoff!" |
That sounds like a really cool assignment. It forces you to realize just what an effect every action has- and by eliminating one you just might trigger another. Definately more interesting than textbook questions. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Concept studies are always more interesting than textbook questions, I'll agree. >D
I've actually thought about that before. What would happen if my grandfather had died in the war and never met my grandmother, then my dad wouldn't have been born, and as my mom would say, I'd just be a "twinkle in her eye." |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Of course, now we can all see that the picture of Hiro and the T-Rex was him pretending to fight the big stuffed dino in the museum. Much better than doing a Homer Simpson. |
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