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 Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: Episode 5 "Hiro's" (October 23rd, 2006) |
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Matt uses his abilities to help his marriage. Niki loses another lapse of time. D.L. has escaped from prison. Claire tells her father about some of the things she's been through lately. Vegas has more consequences for Hiro. Peter recieves a message.
(In this thread you can discuss this episode and the ones that came before it. ) |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: A horrible violation... |
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This was a great episode and I think it was the best since the pilot but something happened in it which I find pretty disgusting:
Just rewatched "Hiro's" again and I am really disgusted by what Matt did to his wife. Using his abilities to read her mind and manipulate her to solidify their relationship was one of the worst violations I can imagine. What is she going to do when she finds out about his abilites...which she inevitably will.
In some ways, I think this is worse than Claire driving the car into the wall or Niki's alter ego sleeping with Nathan.
It reminded me of when Willow used her ability to change Tara's memories. How much worse can it get than to violate the sanctity of someone's mind. When Tara found out about the violation, she left Willow. If our minds aren't ours alone, then what is... |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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At first I thought the same thing about Matt Parkman reading his wife's mind. However, one could make the case that if she would simply speak her mind and be honest with Matt, he wouldn't need to read her mind.
As for Id-Niki (heh...reminds me of the old NES game Kid-Niki), she slept with Petrelli because it was what needed to be done to get her and Micah out from under Linderman's thumb. It may have been immoral, but it was a sacrifice she made more or less for Micah's sake, and one which regular Niki wasn't strong enough to go through with.
Claire's actions were pretty much indefensible. I am, however, worried about what will happen if the coroner who cracked her chest open should ever run into her in the mall or something.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: Ethical or not? |
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| I don't think that it was wrong for Matt to read his wife's mind because he can't control it. He couldn't stop reading her mind and that was proved in the store when he couldn't block out the people's thoughts. He couldn't help reading her mind so he just used the information that he had. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Ethical or not? |
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| archangel wrote: |
| I don't think that it was wrong for Matt to read his wife's mind because he can't control it. He couldn't stop reading her mind and that was proved in the store when he couldn't block out the people's thoughts. He couldn't help reading her mind so he just used the information that he had. |
But he did have some control over it when he purposefully found out that she wanted coffee ice cream. It was only later that he lost control. In the bar, he also had control of it.
And if he couldn't, he was obligated by the trust they should share to tell her what he could do. It would be easy to prove it to her and not violate her privacy. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Maybe fatigue plays a role in his control over the mind-reading power. He did just get done getting his groove on, after all. If that's it, it's in line with how Isaac's drug use affects his powers due to the physical aspect of his addiction to heroin, while Peter can execute Isaac's power without drugs because he's not addicted.
If that's not the reason, maybe it's because everybody in the convenience store was so focused on being scared of the guy with the gun that it was projecting out of their minds with particular force.
Or it could be a combination of the two things.
Or neither. We're not dealing with a mythos that is prescribed in detail, at least not yet. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical or not? |
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| Blackarachnia wrote: |
| And if he couldn't, he was obligated by the trust they should share to tell her what he could do. It would be easy to prove it to her and not violate her privacy. |
Very true. But he might have also been trying not to read her mind by not telling her. I mean, if a friend told you he could read your mind, you would instantly think, "Oh no! Then he must know about ____." Maybe he didn't want to violate her mind by not telling her. And maybe he was afraid that if he told her and proved it that she wouldn't want to stay with him. He might have been afraid of losing her. |
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