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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: Tim Kring apologizes to fans in Entertainment Weekly intervi |
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The subject explains the following, taken from an interview in Entertainment weekly:
By Jeff Jensen Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''
But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:
THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''
THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.
THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)
HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''
YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''
Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''
I have to admit, I agree with pretty much everything here but also see that many many shows make big mistakes in their second seasons and at least these will be fixed before the eeason is over. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I know the show was really sluggish at the beginning, but I always liked it. I'm even more into it because of episode 7 so yeah I suppose fans wanted adrenaline right away. Anyway I'm glad the shows starting to pick up, but it's going to suck if the show ends December 3rd. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Zyro wrote: |
| Yeah I know the show was really sluggish at the beginning, but I always liked it. I'm even more into it because of episode 7 so yeah I suppose fans wanted adrenaline right away. Anyway I'm glad the shows starting to pick up, but it's going to suck if the show ends December 3rd. |
It looks like the strike is going to put off the second half of the season. I'm not sure if "Origins" will still be on or not. And, on a side note, they are saying that if the strike doesn't end soon, Lost may not be on at all this season. |
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mallory Gambit
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Guess we'll have to get out the DVDs. I have missed so many movies....
Most programmes will finish here soon anyway. The local networks love false season finales - take everything off over summer when there are no ratings. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Blackarachnia wrote: |
| Zyro wrote: |
| Yeah I know the show was really sluggish at the beginning, but I always liked it. I'm even more into it because of episode 7 so yeah I suppose fans wanted adrenaline right away. Anyway I'm glad the shows starting to pick up, but it's going to suck if the show ends December 3rd. |
It looks like the strike is going to put off the second half of the season. I'm not sure if "Origins" will still be on or not. And, on a side note, they are saying that if the strike doesn't end soon, Lost may not be on at all this season. |
Seriously? Might not be out at all? God that pisses me off. I read that they were only going to put 8 episodes out until the strike is resolved, also heard it might only be a 16 episode seasons. *Sigh* |
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyro wrote: |
| Blackarachnia wrote: |
| Zyro wrote: |
| Yeah I know the show was really sluggish at the beginning, but I always liked it. I'm even more into it because of episode 7 so yeah I suppose fans wanted adrenaline right away. Anyway I'm glad the shows starting to pick up, but it's going to suck if the show ends December 3rd. |
It looks like the strike is going to put off the second half of the season. I'm not sure if "Origins" will still be on or not. And, on a side note, they are saying that if the strike doesn't end soon, Lost may not be on at all this season. |
Seriously? Might not be out at all? God that pisses me off. I read that they were only going to put 8 episodes out until the strike is resolved, also heard it might only be a 16 episode seasons. *Sigh* |
I heard a report the other day that Lost is coming back for 8 episodes for sure! Great news! Hopefully, the strike will end very very soon. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Blackarachnia wrote: |
| I heard a report the other day that Lost is coming back for 8 episodes for sure! Great news! Hopefully, the strike will end very very soon. |
Oh thank god! I almost cried when Volume 2 of Heroes ended, because it just ended so abruptly (I understand why though). I'm glad to hear LOST is going to be back for 8 for sure episodes, and I pray to all things good and holy that this strike ends soon.
Also, this is going to affect Buffy/Angel comics isn't it? |
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| Zyro wrote: |
| Blackarachnia wrote: |
| I heard a report the other day that Lost is coming back for 8 episodes for sure! Great news! Hopefully, the strike will end very very soon. |
Oh thank god! I almost cried when Volume 2 of Heroes ended, because it just ended so abruptly (I understand why though). I'm glad to hear LOST is going to be back for 8 for sure episodes, and I pray to all things good and holy that this strike ends soon.
Also, this is going to affect Buffy/Angel comics isn't it? |
No, the comics won't be affected. Crap, just remembered I haven't picked up the new Buffy. I'll have to get it tomorrow. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Heh, yeah you should, Issue 9 was great. I think the second Angel comes out next week but don't quote me on that. |
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