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Episode 11: "Fallout"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

superchick wrote:
I don't think Peter will explode. I think this is a vision more of the overload that causes a transformation in him. Perhaps helps him be able to retain those powers of others rather than losing them? If this were Peter exploding and causing the destruction of a city then I would think that Peter would have to die as a result of it. The writers would have a hard time justifying that in light of future Hiro knowing future Peter.


I do think that the dream shows the future, if they don't change it. However, that's an interesting idea about a transformation in Peter. I think this dream is going to cause him to doubt himself a lot more. Seeing as his father commited suicide and suffered from depression, maybe this is something that will afflict Peter in the episodes that follow. Peter has always wanted to save people, he's always been excited about his power. But finding out that he himself causes New York to explode? He's going to seriously question his right to have powers. Maybe he'll even become like Nathan and the two will have a sort of role reversal.
If Peter does go down this road, of course he'll overcome it. I, along with everyone else, agree that he is far too important to go down so early.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just watched a repeat of this episode and at the end when they all meet, it seemed like they all knew that he was going to blow up. except for peter. so if they knew it was an overload, they wouldnt all gather together?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe they want Peter to overload. If he does absorb Sylar's powers (as talked about in other threads) he could be a large threat. Claire did apologize to him at the end, but she acted like she knew what would happen, like you said. So maybe they planned it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall I can't wait for January 22nd!! But, I do feel like that smilie guy right now. I want to know!!! And I don't think that on Jan. 22nd, we'll be left hanging...wondering until the end of the season.

What I really want to know though, is what happened to all the people in New York. They are all gone...cars in the streets, bicycles abandoned...

Maybe Hiro has learned to use his powers much better by then and somehow manages to teleport everyone out. If he just stopped time, he would have to physically move everyone and that would be way too much for one person to accomplish. So.... d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! for now and then... Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooo, yeah, but how would he teleport them away?
i thot they all like ran away lol Brick wall [/code]
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if Peter's father had a power, himself, and couldn't handle it. Or maybe Linderman had a hand in his "suicide"?

I found it kind of odd that they were all running toward Peter, and then they paused as if they realized something, and began to run away from him. Claire seemed to be happy to go toward Peter.. And then she apologized, like she didn't quite know how to help him.

Everyone ran but Nathan, which makes me think that we've been led to believe that Nathan and Peter are not as close as they could be.. But maybe they will end up having to combine abilities or perhaps stand as one. Nathan had no fear, and he doesn't strike me as the type to selflessly put himself in danger without a reason to believe that he'll walk out of it in one piece. It was interesting to see Nathan do such a thing, to say the least.

As for where all the people went.. Perhaps he didn't dream of the people because they were deemed insignificant for the overall meaning? It would be a little more difficult to put emphasis on the heroes if there are crazy masses of people pushing past.

While we're on that - did anyone notice that Isaac was still alive during that prophecy? Wasn't he supposed to have been killed by Sylar before the explosion, hence Hiro's arrest?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder if Peter's father had a power, himself, and couldn't handle it. Or maybe Linderman had a hand in his "suicide"?

I found it kind of odd that they were all running toward Peter, and then they paused as if they realized something, and began to run away from him. Claire seemed to be happy to go toward Peter.. And then she apologized, like she didn't quite know how to help him.

Everyone ran but Nathan, which makes me think that we've been led to believe that Nathan and Peter are not as close as they could be.. But maybe they will end up having to combine abilities or perhaps stand as one. Nathan had no fear, and he doesn't strike me as the type to selflessly put himself in danger without a reason to believe that he'll walk out of it in one piece. It was interesting to see Nathan do such a thing, to say the least.

As for where all the people went.. Perhaps he didn't dream of the people because they were deemed insignificant for the overall meaning? It would be a little more difficult to put emphasis on the heroes if there are crazy masses of people pushing past.

While we're on that - did anyone notice that Isaac was still alive during that prophecy? Wasn't he supposed to have been killed by Sylar before the explosion, hence Hiro's arrest?


I think it's possible that changed because the future was changed when Claire was saved. Sylar was locked up for a period of time, and *may* still be, which would have stopped or detained him from murdering Issac.
That's a great idea about Peter's father having powers. Seeing as both his sons are genetically different, it would make sense that he is as well. As for Nathan- well, I for one think he's a better guy than he's been made out to be. He's just handling his powers differently than the others are. He's terrified of the ways they could disrupt both his and his brother's lives. I do think Nathan is very protective of Peter and I don't think he would turn and run if he knew the other man was in danger. Maybe he stayed because he wanted Peter to absorb his power so that he could fly out of there- either to protect the world or himself from the explosion.
Oh, and welcome to the forum. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necropolis wrote:
I wonder if Peter's father had a power, himself, and couldn't handle it. Or maybe Linderman had a hand in his "suicide"?

I found it kind of odd that they were all running toward Peter, and then they paused as if they realized something, and began to run away from him. Claire seemed to be happy to go toward Peter.. And then she apologized, like she didn't quite know how to help him.

Everyone ran but Nathan, which makes me think that we've been led to believe that Nathan and Peter are not as close as they could be.. But maybe they will end up having to combine abilities or perhaps stand as one. Nathan had no fear, and he doesn't strike me as the type to selflessly put himself in danger without a reason to believe that he'll walk out of it in one piece. It was interesting to see Nathan do such a thing, to say the least.

As for where all the people went.. Perhaps he didn't dream of the people because they were deemed insignificant for the overall meaning? It would be a little more difficult to put emphasis on the heroes if there are crazy masses of people pushing past.

While we're on that - did anyone notice that Isaac was still alive during that prophecy? Wasn't he supposed to have been killed by Sylar before the explosion, hence Hiro's arrest?


I didn't notice that about Nathan until you pointed it out. I really like Nathan and think that he is similar to HRG in that he may think he's doing the right thing, but his methods are not justifiable.

Maybe he stays so that he and Peter can supersonic fly away right before the explosion. Or he just knows that seconds before Peter does whatever we are seeing there, he can get away if he has to but the look on his face was somewhat cold.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I found that about Nathan as well. I found it hard to differentiate between perhaps arrogance versus aloofness.. I don't know. I like Nathan all the same, but I question his moral drive at times. However, I didn't even consider the flying idea. At the same time, would he really be moving toward Peter at that point?

Also, the idea of the future changing - this was indeed true. In the original events, Sylar might have killed the cheerleader and went for Isaac. Furthermore, Isaac had been taken in by the HRG corporation, so! You're right, I bet. =D

Thank you for the welcome. x3
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